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Subject: JAINISM part 3
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akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:08pm
Hind translation of this verse is very interesting it says
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akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:09pm
Again in RigVeda book 10 Hymn 28 verse 3 it says 0 Indra, Bulls they dress for thee, and of these (meat) thou eatest when Maghavan, with food thou art invited.
In Rig veda Book 10 Hymn 86 verse 13 says indra will eat thy bulls, thy dear oblation that effecteth much. Supreme is Indra over all
These verses indicates that Indra, a god of vedic age, used to eat meat.
Also another god of vedic age, Agni, is referred to as flesh-eater' in vedas.
For example, in Rig Veda bock 10 Hymn 16 verse 10 it is said I choose as god for Father-worship Agni, FLESH Eater, who hath past within your dwellings.
In RigVeda Vivah sukta book 10 Hymn 85 verse 13, it mentions that during marriage ceremony the guests were fed with the meat. it says in Magha days are oxen slain, in Arjunis they wed the bride
Atherva veda book 9 Hymn 4 verses 37-38-39 gives expression that cow's milk and cow's meat are most tasty among all other foods. It says The man should not eat before the guest who is Brahmin versed in holy lore When the guest hath eaten he should eat. Now the sweetest portion, the produce of cow, milk or flesh, that verily he should not eat (before the guest)
If you read Mahabharata Shanti Parva chapter 29, a story of greatness of a king called Rantideva is described It is said that he was very rich and generous, and used to feed thousands of guests. The paragraph reads as follows All the vessels and the plates, in Rantideva's palace, for holding food and other articles, all the jugs and other pots, the pan and plates and cups, were of gold. On those nights during which the guests used to live in Rantideva's abode, twenty thousand and one hundred kine cows had to be slaughtered. Yet even on such occasions, the cooks, decked in ear-rings, used to proclaim (amongst those that sat for supper) There is abundant of soup, take as much as you wish, but of flesh we have not as much today as on former occasions This shows that even after slaughtering 20,100 cows, meat used to fall short on some occasions. *
akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:09pm
Many more quotations can be given where non-vegetarian food is given preference compared to vegetarian food. For example,
Mahabharata hashan Parva chapter 88 narrates the discussion between Dharmaraj Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Piths (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) to keep them satisfied Paragraph reads as follows Yudhishthirn said, 0 thou of great puissance, tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the pitris (dead ancestors), become inexhaustible! What Havi, again, (if offered) lasts for all time? What, indeed, is that which (if presented) becomes eternal?
Bhisma said, Listen to me, 0 Yudhishthira, what those Havis are which persons conversant with the rituals of the Shraddha (the ceremony of dead) regard as suitable in view of Shraddha and what the fruits are that attach to each. With sesame seeds and rice and barley and Masha and water and roots and fruits, if given at Shraddhas, the pitris, 0 king, remain gratified for the period of a month. With fishes offered at Shraddha, the pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With the muflon they remain gratified for three months and with the hare for four months, with the flesh of the goat for five months, with the bacon (meat of pig) for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer that are called Prishata, they remain gratified for eight months, and with that obtained form the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of Gavaya for ten months. With the meat of the buffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Shraddha, their gratification, it is said, lasts for a full year. Payesa mixed with ghee is as much acceptable to the pitris as beef. With the meat of Vadhrinasa (a large bull) the gratification of pitris lasts for twelve years. The flesh of rhinoceros, offered to the pitris on anniversaries of the lunar days on which they died, becomes inexhaustible. The potherb called Kalaska, the petals of Kanchana flower, and meat of (red) goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible
So but natural if you want to keep your ancestors satisfied forever, you should serve them the meat of red goat.
Same message is repeated in Manu Smruti Chapter 3 verses 266 to 272. In Shraddha (ceremony of dead) even Brahmjn priests are expected to eat meat. Manu Smruti instructs Hindus to serve non-vegetarian food to priests i.e. Brahmins. It says in Chapter 3 verses 226 and 227 Purified and with a concentrated mind, he should put down on the ground before (those priests) seasoned foods like soups and vegetables and also milk, yogurt, clarified b*tter, honey and various foods that are eaten and enjoyed, roots and fruits, tasty meats, and fragrant water *
akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:10pm
Hindu scriptures not only allow non-vegetarian food but at few places it makes it compulsory for Hindus to eat non-vegetarian food. If anyone refuses non vegetarian food, he will have to face consequences
according Hindu Scriptures, In Vishnu Dharmottar Puran book 1 chapter 140 verses 49 & 50 says
Those who do not eat meat served in the ceremony of dead (Shraddha), will go to hell (narak).
And Manu Smruti mentions still stronger punishment. In Manu Smruti Chapter 5 verse 35 it says
But when a man who is properly engaged in a ritual does not eat meat, after his death he will become a sacrificial animal during twenty-one rebirths
This verse says those who don't eat meat will become sacrificial animals in next twenty-one rebirths. It not only says that a person will become an animal but says will become sacrificial animal meaning others will sacrifice him *
akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:12pm
LOGICAL ARGUMENTS *
akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:13pm
In spite of all these references from Hindu scriptures some still may argue that it is better not to kill any living creature. They forget that even after being pure vegetarian, we have to kill living creatures, to get vegetarian food; we have to kill plants and fruits, which are living creatures. In the past people thought that plants are lifeless but today we know that plants too have life. Some further argue that though! Plants have life it cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel the pain But the cry of plant cannot be heard by the human being This is Hertz to 20,000 Hertz We cannot hear the infrasonic sound whose frequency is below 20 Hertz and we cannot hear ultrasonic sound whose frequency is above 20,000 Hertz. There was a research done by a farmer who invented an instrument, which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest research shows that, the plants even feel happy and sad it can also cry. Plants and fruits have got s*xes - male and female.
Some further argue saying, We agree that plants have life and they also feel pain. But plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses. Therefore killing a plant is lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has got two senses less as compared to other human beings He becomes mature and someone murders him. Will you ask the law to give murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom!!, an innocent person and you should give the murderer a greater punishment.
If every human being becomes a vegetarian, it will lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since the reproduction and multiplication of cattle is very swift. According to news report in Times of India, about 100 years back there were 40,000 tigers in India. Now there are only 20,000 tigers let, since in past 100 years 20,000 tigers were killed 20,000 tigers killed in 100 years means, in an average, 200 tigers every year And it is feared that if hunting is continued at the same rate, tigers will be vanished from forests of India On the contrary millions of cattle are slaughtered every year and still there is no scarcity of cattle. By killing just 200 tigers a year, the existence of tigers is in danger but by killing millions of cattle every year there is no problem as such. If we stop eating non-vegetarian food there will be overpopulation of cattle. Allah (swt in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
Even medically it is preferable to include some portion of non-vegetarian food in our diet Meat is rich in protein, iron, vitamin B1 and niacin. Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. Only meat contains A class proteins. No vegetable got A class protein. The highest class that can be obtained in vegetables is in Soybean, that is B+ class protein. Thus non-vegetarian food is helpful for our body *
akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:13pm
Having both vegetarian and non-vegetarian diet i.e. omnivorous diet is quite natural for human beings considering our body structure. If we observe the teeth of herbivorous animal like cow, goat and sheep, we will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet If we observe the set of teeth of carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e suited for carnivorous diet. If you an*lyse the set of teeth of we humans, you will find that we have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus we have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous diet. We may ask ourselves, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, then why did He provide us with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food.
Digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did he give us digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food? *
akramwap 16.01.11 - 06:14pm
PLEASE GO CONTINUE WITH (JAINISM part 4) *
